Allow to restrict item activities based on item rarity

[Bradeck]

I've only seen it on third party content, but I've already come across items for wich certain activities are only visible if the item has a certain rarity, and those items can be upgraded / found at different rarity level during the campaign.

Allowing to display / hide activity based on the item rarity would greatly simplify the creation of those items.

[arbron]

Can you provide a more specific example of one of these items?

Usually, for items that have multiple rarity variants we've generally just created multiple items for each rarity.

For a single item that gains in power you might also handle this using a self-enchantment with some rider activities to allow them to become available. Then the player could use the enchant activity to increase the magic item to a new level.

[Bradeck]

The ones that comes into mind are the Fabled Heirlooms of The Crooked Moon premium module (from Avantris), so I don't think I can go into too much details.

The gist of those items is :

• Each item have features that are tied to the their rarity (Rare +, Very Rare +, Legendary). Each of those features is item specific.
• Each item can also have a bonus (+1, +2, +3 to hit / to save / to spell DC) that increase with rarity.

Of course, making an item per rarity is doable, it just bloat the compendium size. In The Crooked Moon alone, there are around 30 of those, so we would have to create 90 items, and the GM would have to think to swap the items.

Enchantments are also feasible, but as each item have specific features, it would mean specific enchantments for each items with dedicated rider activities. Doable, but not really a plus compared to do each item for each rarity tier. But enchantments would take care of the bonus features easely (the +1 / +2 / +3).

I only though about asking for activity visibility with item rarities since now there are ways to allow activity visibility restriction using character level. This would indeed make the creation of those items easier when creating the premium modules.

I totally understand if from the dev team perspective that should not be in core system though, as I've only seen these kind of things in third party content.

I hope I'm being clear.

[roth-michael]

Feels like the real ask here is #6182 - rarity changing is not what makes the activities available, it is a byproduct of the same root progression which increases both rarity and activity ability

[Bradeck]

The only difference I can see (but can be a misunderstanding on my part), is that the Progression item, would add items to the character sheet.

My ask is to add activities to an item, and as item power it mainly tied to rarity in D&D, it make sense to unlock activities behing the rarity tier.

• Mandolin of the Wanderer (Rare) : activity 1
• Mandolin of the Wanderer (Very Rare): activity 1 + activity 2
• Mandolin of the Wanderer (Legendary) : upgrade of activity 1 + activity 2 + activity 3

But, it certainly would not hurt to go a more generic route, like item tier, or power level, or whatever, so a content provider could specify exotic conditions to unlock an item "power level".

It's basically an item advancement based on something linked to the item itself, and not the character.

[roth-michael]

You're right, I misread that request. But yeah I think item-based progression/advancement makes sense.

I do think that a single self-enchant with multiple profiles does feel like a solid way of handling this for now, and seems much better than a separate item per tier.

[Bradeck]

Fair, when we made those item, I don't think enchantments were as powerfull (or we didn't know them well enough).
I'll test and if it doesn't work for whatever reason, I'll chime in again. Make take some time though as I'm working on other modules. So feel free to disregard this feature.