diff --git a/changes/pr-435.md b/changes/pr-435.md
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..308d09e0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/changes/pr-435.md
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+[ATS] Deprecate bot and journal auth refreshes
diff --git a/pkgs/bash-packages/authm/authm.py b/pkgs/bash-packages/authm/authm.py
index 3cda384c..f7fcda77 100644
--- a/pkgs/bash-packages/authm/authm.py
+++ b/pkgs/bash-packages/authm/authm.py
@@ -40,36 +40,36 @@ def refresh(headless, force):
             f"Refresh of {GPD.getKwargsOrDefault('gmail_refresh_file')} needed."
         )
         exit(1)
-    print(Fore.YELLOW + "Refreshing Bot Tokens..." + Style.RESET_ALL)
-    try:
-        getGoogleService(
-            "gmail",
-            "v1",
-            GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json"),
-            GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gbot_refresh_file"),
-            headless=headless,
-            force=force,
-        )
-    except CredentialsRefreshException:
-        sys.stderr.write(
-            f"Refresh of {GPD.getKwargsOrDefault('gbot_refresh_file')} needed."
-        )
-        exit(1)
-    print(Fore.YELLOW + "Refreshing Journal Tokens..." + Style.RESET_ALL)
-    try:
-        getGoogleService(
-            "gmail",
-            "v1",
-            GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json"),
-            GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("journal_refresh_file"),
-            headless=headless,
-            force=force,
-        )
-    except CredentialsRefreshException:
-        sys.stderr.write(
-            f"Refresh of {GPD.getKwargsOrDefault('journal_refresh_file')} needed."
-        )
-        exit(1)
+    # print(Fore.YELLOW + "Refreshing Bot Tokens..." + Style.RESET_ALL)
+    # try:
+    #     getGoogleService(
+    #         "gmail",
+    #         "v1",
+    #         GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json"),
+    #         GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gbot_refresh_file"),
+    #         headless=headless,
+    #         force=force,
+    #     )
+    # except CredentialsRefreshException:
+    #     sys.stderr.write(
+    #         f"Refresh of {GPD.getKwargsOrDefault('gbot_refresh_file')} needed."
+    #     )
+    #     exit(1)
+    # print(Fore.YELLOW + "Refreshing Journal Tokens..." + Style.RESET_ALL)
+    # try:
+    #     getGoogleService(
+    #         "gmail",
+    #         "v1",
+    #         GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json"),
+    #         GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("journal_refresh_file"),
+    #         headless=headless,
+    #         force=force,
+    #     )
+    # except CredentialsRefreshException:
+    #     sys.stderr.write(
+    #         f"Refresh of {GPD.getKwargsOrDefault('journal_refresh_file')} needed."
+    #     )
+    #     exit(1)
     print(Fore.GREEN + "DONE" + Style.RESET_ALL)
 
 
diff --git a/pkgs/nixos/profiles/ats.nix b/pkgs/nixos/profiles/ats.nix
index dc0b0be0..a9674d4e 100644
--- a/pkgs/nixos/profiles/ats.nix
+++ b/pkgs/nixos/profiles/ats.nix
@@ -41,22 +41,22 @@ with import ../dependencies.nix; {
     ];
     enableOrchestrator = true;
     timedOrchJobs = [
-      {
-        name = "ats-greeting";
-        jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-greeting" ''
-          sleep 5
-          authm refresh --headless || { >&2 logger -t authm "authm refresh error!"; exit 1; }
-          sleep 5
-          gmail-manager gbot-send 6612105214@vzwpix.com "ats-greeting" \
-            "[$(date)] 🌞 Hello, world! I'm awake! authm refreshed successfully ✅"
-          gmail-manager gbot-send andrew.torgesen@gmail.com "ats-greeting" \
-            "[$(date)] 🌞 Hello, world! I'm awake! authm refreshed successfully ✅"
-        '';
-        timerCfg = {
-          OnBootSec = "1m";
-          Persistent = false;
-        };
-      }
+      # {
+      #   name = "ats-greeting";
+      #   jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-greeting" ''
+      #     sleep 5
+      #     authm refresh --headless || { >&2 logger -t authm "authm refresh error!"; exit 1; }
+      #     sleep 5
+      #     gmail-manager gbot-send 6612105214@vzwpix.com "ats-greeting" \
+      #       "[$(date)] 🌞 Hello, world! I'm awake! authm refreshed successfully ✅"
+      #     gmail-manager gbot-send andrew.torgesen@gmail.com "ats-greeting" \
+      #       "[$(date)] 🌞 Hello, world! I'm awake! authm refreshed successfully ✅"
+      #   '';
+      #   timerCfg = {
+      #     OnBootSec = "1m";
+      #     Persistent = false;
+      #   };
+      # }
       {
         name = "ats-triaging";
         jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-triaging" ''
@@ -188,21 +188,21 @@ with import ../dependencies.nix; {
           Persistent = false;
         };
       }
-      {
-        name = "ats-refresh-reminder";
-        jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-refresh-reminder" ''
-          authm refresh --headless || { >&2 logger -t authm "authm refresh error!"; exit 1; }
-          rcrsync copy configs || { >&2 logger -t authm "configs sync error!"; exit 1; }
-          gmail-manager gbot-send 6612105214@vzwpix.com "Gentle Reminder" \
-            "[$(date)] 👋 When you have a second, please refresh my credentials at http://$(cat ~/secrets/ats/i.txt)/auth/"
-          gmail-manager gbot-send andrew.torgesen@gmail.com "Gentle Reminder" \
-            "[$(date)] 👋 When you have a second, please refresh my credentials at http://$(cat ~/secrets/ats/i.txt)/auth/"
-        '';
-        timerCfg = {
-          OnCalendar = [ "Sun 19:00" ];
-          Persistent = false;
-        };
-      }
+      # {
+      #   name = "ats-refresh-reminder";
+      #   jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-refresh-reminder" ''
+      #     authm refresh --headless || { >&2 logger -t authm "authm refresh error!"; exit 1; }
+      #     rcrsync copy configs || { >&2 logger -t authm "configs sync error!"; exit 1; }
+      #     gmail-manager gbot-send 6612105214@vzwpix.com "Gentle Reminder" \
+      #       "[$(date)] 👋 When you have a second, please refresh my credentials at http://$(cat ~/secrets/ats/i.txt)/auth/"
+      #     gmail-manager gbot-send andrew.torgesen@gmail.com "Gentle Reminder" \
+      #       "[$(date)] 👋 When you have a second, please refresh my credentials at http://$(cat ~/secrets/ats/i.txt)/auth/"
+      #   '';
+      #   timerCfg = {
+      #     OnCalendar = [ "Sun 19:00" ];
+      #     Persistent = false;
+      #   };
+      # }
       {
         name = "ats-gmail-clean";
         jobShellScript = pkgs.writeShellScript "ats-gmail-clean" ''
diff --git a/pkgs/python-packages/flasks/authui/authui.py b/pkgs/python-packages/flasks/authui/authui.py
index f547ea32..82399f33 100644
--- a/pkgs/python-packages/flasks/authui/authui.py
+++ b/pkgs/python-packages/flasks/authui/authui.py
@@ -38,16 +38,16 @@ def expanduser_for(user, path):
         "secrets_file": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json")),
         "refresh_token": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_refresh_file")),
     },
-    "bot": {
-        "name": "Bot",
-        "secrets_file": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json")),
-        "refresh_token": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gbot_refresh_file")),
-    },
-    "journal": {
-        "name": "Journal",
-        "secrets_file": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json")),
-        "refresh_token": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("journal_refresh_file")),
-    },
+    # "bot": {
+    #     "name": "Bot",
+    #     "secrets_file": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json")),
+    #     "refresh_token": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gbot_refresh_file")),
+    # },
+    # "journal": {
+    #     "name": "Journal",
+    #     "secrets_file": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("gmail_secrets_json")),
+    #     "refresh_token": expanduser_for("andrew", GPD.getKwargsOrDefault("journal_refresh_file")),
+    # },
 }
 
 generators = {}