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Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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| c) Have been operating a [_Certified SCS-compatible IaaS_](https://docs.scs.community/standards/global/scs-0004) public cloud with at least two regions or at least three availability zones for more than one year or put such a cloud into operation during the period as _Incubator_. | ||
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In my mind, the Incubator status needs to be implemented differently, namely, as a dedicated kind of certificate (maybe two, one for each layer), to be listed in the Section "Certificates".
Also and probably independent of my previous point, I think the Section "Criteria" should be rephrased. Something along the lines of:
The partner should achieve at least two points (for Integrator) or one point (for Apprentice) according to the following system:
- one point for each SCS-compliant environment of a third party successfully brought into production in the last 12 months, where the environment must fulfill at least ...
- one point for each SCS-compliant environment of a third party actively being managed by the applicant,
- etc. pp
This way, we can allow a mixture of what is currently a, b, and c.
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Very good point. I always had in mind that is a separate Certificate, in order not to add to any confusion. I like the idea with the points.
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In addition to @mbuechse 's comment: With the points we get rid of the voting, since I see the voting as one of the primary culprits of the original proposal as well. The decision should lie in the attestation body and with the proposed variant upon points, this would work nicely. |
Signed-off-by: Matthias Büchse <matthias.buechse@alasca.cloud>
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I tried to incorporate what we had discussed in the SIG. I think the name "Incubator" should be reconsidered. |
i concur. Reading it like "SCS-Certified IaaS Incubator" does not really make sense. Apprentice ;)
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Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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Many thanks to both of you, especially @mbuechse for incorporating what was discussed in the SIG. Based on this, I tried to make further adjustments:
My two cents for a better name than "Incubator":
The actual certification process could be described as implementation hints in the Supplement w2. Also with the additions proposed in the SIG, with the three stages of "self-assessment", "codified checks" and "audit". However, this would still require specific plausibility checks and statistics. |
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Couple of thoughts: By having several levels of SCS-Certified IaaS it becomes more complex to comprehend for outsiders, thats why I kinda liked the different naming. “SCS-certified IaaS Integrator” is simple and easily understood. But maybe this discussion / the course of discussion since September shows that we need this added "complexity" in order to address the needs adequately. The second thought: we just certified four companies with ‘SCS-certified IaaS Integrator’ and renaming this would mean that this has to be adjusted as well. |
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We can say that "Silver" (and above) MAY be omitted, so as to remain backwards-compatible. |
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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I tried to incorporate our latest proposal regarding certificate levels and the points mentioned in the last SIG Std/Cert on 2025-12-02. |
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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Regarding the open question "How to allow implementation partners who are very knowledgeable, but will never meet the requirements of Integrator to become certified?" Version 2 of this standard intentionally does not consider this question. It should rather be a separate new standard like "Certified SCS Consultant". The other two open issues are addressed in the current draft, see supplement. |
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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During the presentation at the Forum SCS-Standards regular call on 2025-12-12 the issue was raised that the current naming system using certificate levels (aka "Certified SCS IaaS Bronze Integrator") is too long: These were the suggestion so far:
What we are looking for: A shorter name/term that clearly expresses that it is an entry-level/lower level certification to the "normal" SCS Integrator. |
Resolves #1024
There are still some open questions:
Show differences between v1 and v2:
Procedural:
Supplement: